Psychedelics and bdsm

Posted by: HenryB

Psychedelics and bdsm - 04/22/24 09:58 PM

Friends -- I'll be grateful for your patience with an unorthodox question. I make use of psychedelic substances (on a legal basis, I hasten to say) in various ways that are meaningful to me. They allow me to perceive (or feel that I do) things that are utterly inaccessible to the mind in its ordinary state. I realize that might sound silly if you haven't shared the experience. But probably some of you have.

In any event, I would be very interested in working with a dominatrix who also is versed in those experiences and who would be willing to session while under the influence of them. I realize that some people will think there are ethical problems with both parties being under the influence of any mind-altering substance at the same time. But I'm talking here about substances that don't impair the judgment in significant ways (they have other substantial effects), and (more to the point) in an agreed-upon setting that is very safe for both. It would be powerful to experience a bit of bdsm or related things in that space with someone else who is there as well.

Thank you for humoring this inquiry, and for any thoughts! And for any pms if you're a domme and this is something that is in your comfort zone and appeals to you.
Posted by: palmer

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 04/22/24 10:10 PM

I have no experience here whatsoever, but there is a podcast, Sex Love Psychedelics, that has featured a couple of well known pro domes as well as other guests. I don't know if they discuss psychedelics within the context of actual play, but this might be a good place to start.
Posted by: Soapy

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 04/23/24 09:33 AM

Most prodommes want everyone involved in a session to be sober, so you are going to have to look hard to find what you want.
Posted by: Mistress Tissa

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 04/23/24 08:28 PM

Originally Posted By HenryB
Friends -- I'll be grateful for your patience with an unorthodox question. I make use of psychedelic substances (on a legal basis, I hasten to say) in various ways that are meaningful to me. They allow me to perceive (or feel that I do) things that are utterly inaccessible to the mind in its ordinary state. I realize that might sound silly if you haven't shared the experience. But probably some of you have.

In any event, I would be very interested in working with a dominatrix who also is versed in those experiences and who would be willing to session while under the influence of them. I realize that some people will think there are ethical problems with both parties being under the influence of any mind-altering substance at the same time. But I'm talking here about substances that don't impair the judgment in significant ways (they have other substantial effects), and (more to the point) in an agreed-upon setting that is very safe for both. It would be powerful to experience a bit of bdsm or related things in that space with someone else who is there as well.

Thank you for humoring this inquiry, and for any thoughts! And for any pms if you're a domme and this is something that is in your comfort zone and appeals to you.



I have a lot of experience with psychedelics and would consider this type of scene with appropriate preparation. However, the fact that you don't mention anything beyond that, such as where you're at or where you're willing to go to make it happen, makes me a little cynical about your intentions.

Guys like to come into forums like this and ask about some niche experiences, which then receive some number of replies, including from one or more FemDoms, and then never reply. To the point where I think just mentioning the activity and the ensuing attention was the real interest.
Posted by: international

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 04/24/24 12:35 PM

I may be naive and did not get that...
... but there is an upside:
You just made it to the very top of the domminas I'd hope to session with when the opportunity arises!
Posted by: Jeffmill999

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 04/24/24 04:30 PM

I have seen several references to psychedelics in ads. Very surprising, akin to pnp. While it is very intriguing, it’s seems that should be the result of an earned trust over time.
Posted by: Soapy

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 04/25/24 11:26 AM

Sounds like an extremely interesting subject if you ever cared to spend your time on it to type out your thoughts!
Posted by: broom

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 04/25/24 05:04 PM

i think that i've started a thread and didn't have any follow up posts. i think that i did it the first time i came on this board. i never did it for attention, it can be difficult to engage for me. it was hard to make my first posts let alone follow it. i've been reading this board regularly for several years now but i rarely post. speaking only for myself, it is kind of intimidating. after the first post i got several private messages that were really helpful. i never responded to any of the public posts i guess because i didn't feel that i had anything to contribute to the discussion, but i did read everything and i got good advice both publicly and privately. for me, i'm a sub and a lurker for a lot of the same reasons. it is hard to put something out there that can be criticized.
Posted by: HenryB

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 04/25/24 05:39 PM

Dear all -- Thank you for the replies. My question was asked in good faith. Nobody who has actual experiences with the issues I'm talking about would approach them lightly. I said less rather than more in my post because this topic seems to me to require particular discretion and because I realize some might consider the entire concept that I've raised to be objectionable. But I've had a couple of good private exchanges as a result, and am grateful for them (and for any to come).
Posted by: Mistress Tissa

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 04/26/24 01:14 AM

Originally Posted By international
I may be naive and did not get that...
... but there is an upside:
You just made it to the very top of the domminas I'd hope to session with when the opportunity arises!


Hold yer horses, intl! This is a very serious subject reserved for only the upper-tier clientele.

So, if you're thinking that I'd let you trip balls...well, we have to have a nice, long chat over some legal documents first. wink
Posted by: Mistress Tissa

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 04/26/24 01:21 AM

Originally Posted By Soapy
Sounds like an extremely interesting subject if you ever cared to spend your time on it to type out your thoughts!


I have done a lot of mind-altering substances, several of which were hallucinogenic. But this was in the 90s. So, as the kids say, it's been a minute.

But I have a lot of experience with altered states of consciousness and believe I could facilitate something magnificent because I've "bottomed" so much for drugs. However, it would require a lot to make it happen because the legal risk is quite significant.

Important to note: I would not do them myself.
Posted by: international

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 04/27/24 03:10 PM

Defenseless in a straitjacket, tortured, all emotions amplified by mind-altering drugs: Believe me, I'd definitely not do that with somebody I just met at the bar... So yes, we'd have to exchange a few words beforehand!

I am very lucky to have a partner in Europe with experiences in both, and we know each other well...
But there is room to learn and experience more!

On another note:
I wonder where you find the lawyer who would draft you the respective legal documents - probably you have to provide him/her plenty of psychedelics beforehand :-)
Posted by: Ms_Gia_Peccato

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 04/27/24 10:51 PM

Although I have no experience with psychedelics, if I trusted someone and knew them for a long time through sessions, I would love to facilitate a session using hypnosis to lead the mind through a voyage–however, I myself would be sober.

I have done this and have had sessions of pure energy play that were mind blowing (not with psychedelics, solely using hypnosis to induce trance that is parallel to that experience and it has been absolutely phenomenal.



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Posted by: international

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 04/29/24 07:36 AM

And I thought the most extreme emotional peak would be the double of BDSM and psychedelics...

A threesome with hypnosis in addition might be so intense it could split the brain!
Posted by: NYC Mistress Devi

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 05/04/24 11:08 PM

Sounds like a very good time !
Posted by: Mistress Tissa

Re: Psychedelics and bdsm - 05/05/24 07:09 PM

Originally Posted By international
Defenseless in a straitjacket, tortured, all emotions amplified by mind-altering drugs: Believe me, I'd definitely not do that with somebody I just met at the bar... So yes, we'd have to exchange a few words beforehand!


When it comes to playing under the influence, my opinion is that you DEFINITELY need to do it with someone who you 110% trust and that actually knows very well what that drug feels like and how people behave under its influence. You want to drop acid and play? Sounds killer. But, my Goddess, your Domme better be intimately familiar with it. Otherwise how are they supposed to know about how to effectively and safely top for it? How will they possibly know how to craft an appropriate ascent, peak, and come-down? How will they understand LSD-specific after care? They won't and it will suck for you.

Quote:
I am very lucky to have a partner in Europe with experiences in both, and we know each other well... But there is room to learn and experience more!


Awesome!