In Regard to Trolling
Posted by: Cheyenne
In Regard to Trolling - 03/29/20 09:05 AM
Over the years, there have been some harmless discussion forum trolls. Some of them have made for entertaining conversations. Once, a screen name said that he was starting a slave union and began asking for suggestions on what the members should demand. One of the moderators made a joke about busting the union. Someone started using a photo of Jimmy Hoffa as their icon. It was hilarious.
Some of the trolling is disruptive and can get ugly. In fact, it borders cyber bullying at times. That is what I feel is a must stop for any on line forum.
My opinion is that it all comes down to intentions. If someone is just being silly, why not? Once they cross the line into being disruptive or abusive, it is time for banning.
What are you thoughts on this?
Posted by: Grune
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/29/20 09:15 AM
Some people causing disruption and being purposefully disrespectful on a consistent basis deserve to be banned.
Two points about banning... If someone is to be banned it should be pretty much a general consensus of members. Not just a mod but all mods and a few members. Maybe start a thread on a particular member and let people post yes or nay.
The next one is more practical. Is it possible to ban IP s or just screen names. If just screen names, they will just make a new login to continue trolling.
Posted by: Soapy
Where are the mods? - 03/29/20 09:31 AM
There is reason to believe that PresidentDJT and turdburglar from MF are the same person ( they posted the same thread ).
Even if not, PresidentDJT posted an anti-prodomme thread in our Lobby.
There are two reasons for The Buzz
1. The technical unreliability of MF
2. Moderation, so people, especially prodommes don't get disgusted and leave.
Why hasn't PresidentDJT or at least his post been removed from The Lobby?
Plenty of names in green here. Do they lack the rights to moderate The Lobby?
If so my suggestion would be to get a second moderator for The Lobby, so The Buzz doesn't become like MF where people have to wait for moderation.
No disrespect to anyone.
Posted by: DominaAdmin
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/29/20 10:17 AM
The system allows banning of IPs & screen names.
Posted by: Jiminhales
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/29/20 11:29 AM
If it was my post I would be happy to kindly respond. Just don’t want anyone else on here failing to participate because they have their tail between their legs.
We already have enough people who lurk and don’t contribute. Let me know. Thanks
Posted by: Cheyenne
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/29/20 11:39 AM
Thanks for your consideration. I didn't have any one person in mind. There has been some real ugliness on another forum that got me thinking about the difference of posters who have bad intentions and those who just like to be silly sometimes. I agree that as much enjoyable and thought provoking activity on this site, the better.
Posted by: Grune
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/29/20 11:43 AM
Nice!
Posted by: Jiminhales
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/29/20 11:59 AM
Ok. My earlier post about a midget Domme. My post was being serious as I think someone like that could clean up.
Naming her Mistress Midget was trying to add a little humor which some may need at this time. Thanks
Posted by: Mistress Ayn
Re: Where are the mods? - 03/29/20 03:46 PM
Soapy, are you asking that the member PresidentDJT be banned, reprimanded or . . . ?
I haven't taken the time to see what he has done on MF and probably won't. But if he continues such stirring the pot with hostile posts toward the Dommes (this is a DOMME board) I am sure he will be taken care of here - one way or another. To date, I haven't had an need to exercise my moderator status. Admin appears to do a good job of keeping up with what's going on here.
Posted by: Zingish
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/29/20 05:33 PM
Yes, MF has recently been experiencing a lot of trolling from several posters. I do wish that the reasonable people there would adjust their settings to "ignore this user" instead of responding with outrage. The trolls' intention is obviously to provoke outrage.
Posted by: Cheyenne
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/29/20 05:36 PM
I would have answered the thread your post if there hadn't been a request for a yes or no answer.
Posted by: Cheyenne
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/29/20 05:38 PM
Yes, most trolls look to see attention. Again, some times it is harmless...but other times it is disruptive. In some of the threads, a few known posters have crossed the line into being cyber bullies. Not having moderation and perhaps all of the angst our country is going through is the perfect storm for that.
Posted by: DominaAdmin
Re: Where are the mods? - 03/29/20 05:39 PM
The PresidentDJT profile has been marked Exercise Caution. If further problems arise it will be banned.
Posted by: Soapy
Re: Where are the mods? - 03/29/20 05:50 PM
Mistress Ayn,
Thank you for responding to my comment.
There is a troll on maxfisch.com/thehang who goes by the name "turdburglar".
At the least he has been frequently violating the rules there by posting about subjects other than the
promotion of professional domination in their Lobby.
He frequently posts misogynistic, anti-domme, and even racist content. It is my belief that it is done intentionally invoke drama ( aka "trolling" ).
You can see for yourself by perusing her/his
posting history A number of people who read The Buzz and The Hang believe that "turdburglar" and "PresidentDJT" are the same person because they posted 2 identical threads here and there.
turburglar's threads: $200 FedCoin PresidentDJT's threads: $200 FedCoin It is possible that the two accounts belong to different people with one troll copycatting off another.
Given that I think a minimal response is preferred over a maximum response.
Please consider locking the $200 thread.
Posted by: Zingish
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/29/20 05:53 PM
Your comment about the angst that our country is going through right now
really gets to the point. All the current political turmoil has released a lot of "reptilian ids" out there. They feel a certain license to spout off all the ugliness that they've been holding in until now.
Posted by: Soapy
Re: Where are the mods? - 03/29/20 05:59 PM
The PresidentDJT profile has been marked Exercise Caution. If further problems arise it will be banned.
Posted by: Mistress Tissa
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/30/20 02:04 AM
Yes, most trolls look to see attention. Again, some times it is harmless...but other times it is disruptive.
It depends on how you define "harmless".
Shitposters are low value contributors. They're unlikely to offer anything meaningful to this community. That's not what they're interested in. So, giving them a space to shitpost isn't useful -- in fact, it enables them -- and it just wastes people's time and can make the higher quality posters feel uncomfortable and unwelcome.
Let's stop trying to be diplomatic about douchebags. Honestly. We're all adults here. Is it really too much to ask people to act like it? I mean, we're going to disagree. Sometimes passionately. That's okay. But I think we know the difference between that and Serial Douchebaggery.
Let's have a fun, interesting forum with people who are truly into talking about Dommes and kink and their fantasies and other sexy stuff, not one where people use us as an audience to get some negative attention.
Posted by: Cheyenne
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/30/20 06:38 AM
I agree with your post. Well put. I would only add that a little levity here and there is a positive thing...as long as the intentions are good. As with everything else, it all comes down to intentions.
Posted by: Soapy
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/30/20 06:55 AM
I agree.
The beginning of the downfall of MF was tolerating shit posting. The prodommes and other interesting conversationalists got disgusted and left.
It is probably a bigger threat to The Buzz today than it was to The Hang back in the day.
People have many alternative places to go.
Why should they scroll past juvenile postings when they can go to Twitter to have conversations with their clients and friends - minus the garbage?
Posted by: Mistress Tissa
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/31/20 02:17 AM
I agree with your post. Well put. I would only add that a little levity here and there is a positive thing...as long as the intentions are good. As with everything else, it all comes down to intentions.
Thank you.
Levity is of course welcome, but I would hope we could know the difference between good-natured humor and a shitpost.
Posted by: Mistress Tissa
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/31/20 02:27 AM
The beginning of the downfall of MF was tolerating shit posting. The prodommes and other interesting conversationalists got disgusted and left.
I think the beginning of the downfall of MF was that Captain Fisch abandoned ship. And whatever crew had any control of its course didn't seem to care enough to take care of it. Now, it's just an outdated Domme directory with some kids throwing mud and sullying the cultural value of the forum.
But, yes, I was one of the ones who got disgusted and left. Because, as you say:
People have many alternative places to go.
Why should they scroll past juvenile postings when they can go to Twitter to have conversations with their clients and friends - minus the garbage?
Posted by: Soapy
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/31/20 06:17 AM
By the time you got there MF was already long in ruins from what it once was. There were people in control with the start of tolerating the BS which caused people to slowly leave.
Posted by: Cheyenne
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/31/20 07:09 AM
I agree with your post. Well put. I would only add that a little levity here and there is a positive thing...as long as the intentions are good. As with everything else, it all comes down to intentions.
Thank you.
Levity is of course welcome, but I would hope we could know the difference between good-natured humor and a shitpost.
What I've seen on MF, over the years, is that the screen name reveals itself in time. There does appear to be a rise of trolling both here and on MF. At least we haven't seen some of the incredibly nasty attacks that take place over there. I hope whatever is causing this rise eases up.
Cheyenne, I haven't seen any trolling on this board. I'm sure if you report it to admin they would deal with it.
This is what's going on over at Max. I posted this sometime back and it's still relevant.
[/quote] In years past, I was an active contributor to this board. I stopped participating due to the vicious-libelous attacks posted here.
Several Dommes careers have been damaged some irreparably by passive aggressive men pretending to be submissive.
I have read obviously fraudulent reviews and Lobby posts designed to damage and hurt allowed to flourish. The worst part of this injustice is that the Dommes with influence on this board allow it to happen and in some cases relish in it.
Always remember a Dommes good reputation is Her lifeblood!
This board was not created to bash and malign! It was also not created to discuss illegal activities, read the rules if you don't believe me.
There are also several members who, in the guise of "helping" BDSM in general, delight in discussing topics that demean Women and Pro Domination as a whole.
Instead of being joyous that Professional Dommes exist, several of the men on this forum seem to hate us!
Without moderation, this board has become a monster. It is a veritable playground for wankers, trolls, bullies, toadies, and stalkers!In years past, I was an active contributor to this board. I stopped participating due to the vicious /libelous attacks posted here.
Several Dommes careers have been damaged some irreparably by passive aggressive men pretending to be submissive.
I have read obviously fraudulent reviews and Lobby posts designed to damage and hurt allowed to flourish. The worst part of this injustice is that the Dommes with influence on this board allow it to happen and in some cases relish in it.
Always remember a Dommes good reputation is Her lifeblood!
This board was not created to bash and malign! It was also not created to discuss illegal activities, read the rules if you don't believe me.
There are also several members who, in the guise of "helping" BDSM in general, delight in discussing topics that demean Women and Pro Domination as a whole.
Instead of being joyous that Professional Dommes exist, several of the men on this forum seem to hate us!
Without moderation, this board has become a monster. It is a veritable playground for wankers, trolls, bullies, toadies, and stalkers! [quote]
From what I understand, no new registrations are being accepted. Members who request Lost passwords are not receiving them.
Someone has admin power, and is using it to mess with their enemies.
Posted by: Soapy
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/31/20 10:00 AM
Someone has admin power, and is using it to mess with their enemies.
This just isn't true.
Years ago the site was abandoned by those who own it.
Occasionally someone with admin rights pops in, but only occasionally.
Years ago I contacted the web host ( no longer the same company ) to ask them to step in to clean out spammer bots. They agreed as it could hurt their other accounts and computers. They gave a few people some admin rights which they used to do site maintenance. All of those rights were taken away when the owners/admins eventually came back.
Sadly to this day there are still people on this site spreading rumor that there are people still active on MF using secret admin powers for personal vendettas.
It just isn't so.
No disrespect.
Posted by: Cheyenne
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/31/20 04:58 PM
It is worse than members not being granted new registrations. Moderators who have lost their passwords are not receiving emails to reset them. The administration is broken. It has become worse than the Jerry Springer show. Some of the ugly accusations are absolutely libelous. No one seems to care about that because it is a safe bet no one is going to the trouble to sue over it. There have been signs that private messages are being read and selective "Moderation" is quietly taking place. But, it is just an appearance. Who really knows what is happening over there.
Posted by: Cheyenne
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 03/31/20 05:12 PM
Someone has admin power, and is using it to mess with their enemies.
This just isn't true.
Years ago the site was abandoned by those who own it.
Occasionally someone with admin rights pops in, but only occasionally.
Years ago I contacted the web host ( no longer the same company ) to ask them to step in to clean out spammer bots. They agreed as it could hurt their other accounts and computers. They gave a few people some admin rights which they used to do site maintenance. All of those rights were taken away when the owners/admins eventually came back.
Sadly to this day there are still people on this site spreading rumor that there are people still active on MF using secret admin powers for personal vendettas.
It just isn't so.
No disrespect.
You've been as helpful as you can be on MF. I've no doubt it is appreciated by many, not just myself. It did look dicey a few years ago when known and respected posters were getting banned over what seemed to be personal disagreements. All of the silly banning and unbanning was taking place when the rest of the site was falling apart. Now, some threads go unreadable while others, from years earlier, get bumped up. It is weird. Recently, as you know, there were unconscionable and personal attacks being made. It was like someone behind the scene was feeding selective information from private messages. The best lie has a small grain of truth. Where else would the posters, with strange vendettas, have gotten the pieced together slander they were throwing out? It was about as vindictive as anything I've ever seen. All the while, moderators who wanted to step in, had their hands tied. I believe that you have done what you can to help and with only good intentions. I just have to wonder if you are being told the truth.
Posted by: Komodo
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 04/01/20 02:32 AM
I think that Soapy is right. I think I know whom you suspect. I think that there were people who had admin capabilities in the past but lost them. There is here an obsession with MF which I find misplaced. As far as present contributions this site is ahead and this is unlikely to change. But MF is unique because of its legacy and place in history. It was the one and only forum at the time when forums mattered. Placing a story on MF was important. Being banned from it was a blow because there was nothing else. Nowadays forums are favored only by people of our age. By the time I joined MF its best days were already over. There is a certain parallel between MF and Club Dom. You know I am a big fan of it, but its best days were when you were directly involved with it. MF best days were even before that, but they both have a place in history and I would hate to see them disappear.
Posted by: Komodo
Re: Where are the mods? - 04/01/20 02:55 AM
I think Admin is doing a very good job. The best referees in a game are those you cannot even notice. If a referee is part of the game it distracts from it. Admin is discrete and shows very good judgment. Besides there is another reason why she should be the only one doing the job. The other moderators are public mistresses with business interests and images to protect. It does not make sense for them to create enemies. Turdburglar might be easy to deal with but in this day and age there are lots of forms of media for somebody to use so restricting the access here protects the forum but not the mistress. Not to mention that if the intruder is software savvy he could get around screen name or IP blocking.
Posted by: Cheyenne
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 04/01/20 04:44 AM
Soapy may well be right. I know how things have looked but anyone's suspicions is just speculation. I do know that Soapy always tries to help everyone with MF issues however he can.
In the early days there was a bit of mystery to the administration of MF. These days I feel that is gone. It has been replaced with disgust for the most part. There are a few of us that don't want to let go because we still have friends that post there. But, the garbage people can get by with saying about someone is out of hand. When there was a higher volume of quality posters, that didn't fly. Self policing took over.
In any case, I am of the generate of discussion forums. I'm happy that the buzz is here.
Posted by: Kevin_Hayes
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 04/01/20 02:25 PM
As you well know, I've had my share of spats on Max and elsewhere, mostly Max. I'm not going anywhere until I croak. I've had many more good exchanges than bad and I've made some good friends including you Cheyenne. Some folks slam Max and I get it to en extent. There are some outfight msigogynists on max as well as missandrists, to be fair. Far too often the "M" word is used too often in a quick and convenient, inaccurate character accessemnt that is shrouded in virtue but is actually just plain bigotry/predjudice. It takes quite the narcissist to be playing that hand I have found, among other character defects. Sometimes, someone will get called out on their bullshitl and they don't want to be accountable for it so they will then vilify the opposing side and that vilification is inaccurate, unjust, unfair etc. Then again, this is online activity we're talking about so the potential for shit to go off the deep end not rooted in reality is great.
Posted by: Cheyenne
Re: In Regard to Trolling - 04/01/20 07:13 PM
Yes, the "R" world and "M" word are used too often. It takes away from it is actually true. At the end of the day, some is a jerk or they are not. It doesn't matter why.
I have more than a little knowledge about the operations of a discussion board using,
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Someone is settling a score.