AVN?

I have a hard time understanding why many in the Professional Domme community are enthralled by AVN. Perhaps it's like the old adage, "Actors want to be singers, and singers want to be actors."

I believe the porn industry is arguably the sleaziest, enterprise on the planet. Maybe I'm old fashion, but I hold Professional Domination to a much higher standard!

I'm proud to be a Dominatrix, not an escort, or porn star!

An Escort is a sex worker. A Porn Star is a sex worker. A Dominatrix is a sex worker. I do not compare myself to other people in other similar professions who are just trying to earn money doing something they enjoy.

I'm proud to be a Dominatrix, and a fellow sex worker. Being on AVN doesn't make me anything else. The platform gives my subs an interactive space to play with me and worship my content while also funding my livelihood. That's all there is to it.

Goddess Lynx, AVN is the Adult Entertainment Expo-Con in Las Vegas. This year they are advertising the attendance of 1,000 stars from the adult industry.

Ms Rose Woods, We have friends who have attended to be recognized in the BDSM film category.

Ah, I thought she meant AVN as in AVN Stars the platform. Makes more sense.

Hi MRW. I don't personally know anyone in the true porn industry so I can't speak on its sleaziness. Like you, I have never seen the appeal of attending. It's just another example of the blurring of the lines. Dommes like you and me don't seem to be able to hold back the tide.

That being said, some of my Domme friends have been and said they had a good time. Evidently there is usually at least one fetish/kink party. To each his own, I guess.

I am 200% with you on this. It takes a lot more to be a Dominatrix than a plain SW. Yes a Dominatrix can be a SW. And I am a vertebrate. This is technically true but it is not the best description of me.

It's another opportunity for video producers to do some shooting. And, for the pros, another opportunity to make themselves available for sessions in Las Vegas.

There's not much in the way of dungeon environments in Las Vegas, but there seems to be plenty of work for visiting dommes who can do their thing in a hotel room.

Possibly. Regarding Vegas sessions, I see a lot of Dommes traveling there in the past couple of years. (And I am posting this more for other Dommes reading this than I am for you OwwitHz ;-) The little feedback I have heard is that there is not much volume, so I think they mainly go for fun and try to get in a few sessions too. It's a very flakey town. I lived there for almost 10 years and never hung out my shingle. I considered it many times but the lines between prostitution and domination were so blurred and the tourists have such a "#hit all over the town and leave it because what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas attitude" that I felt it was a danger to be a Pro Domme there - and I would have had to open my own dungeon because there were absolutely zero facilities.

My two cents - sorry for hijacking your reply O.

Mistress Ayn, been to Vegas for business more times than I care to remember. People think that prostitution is legal there. It is not. I did session with two ladies on separate occasions, one on multiple occasions. I was a regular there and in NYC. Both were female bodybuilders. The appointments were always at my hotel, both were into role play and domination. Very good sessions, both into kink. They lived there and were very discrete. I'd meet them in the lobby by sight without talking and get them onto the elevator.

For a couple of years AVN was held during another convention I attended. I walked the floor once, saw a couple of porn stars in black leather holding whips. While the "scenery" was nice, after about 15 or 20 minutes I got "outta" there. Not my thing.

That was CES, and my experience paying a visit to "the other side" was similar to yours - not much for me there. But back then, it was a real trade show, with film makers looking for distributors and equipment makers looking for dealers and publications where they can advertise. It wasn't about dommes promoting themselves. That's what DomCon is, as far as I can tell - I've never attended.

I remember meeting Irene Boss there. If I remember correctly, she had some soft of hypnotism setup that she was showing. We had a nice little chat - she impressed me as a really smart businesswoman.

There is a little cross over with AVN. A few years ago a ClubDom video was nominated in a fetish related category. I didn't attend but the mention was cool. Years ago I went to AVN to help a fellow dom with her booth. The convention was mainly porn but, bdsm had a reasonable presence. There is a bdsm party, mainly femdom, this year that has a lot of people excited.

If there hadn't been such a crack down on bdsm videos, we probably could have had our own version of AVN by now. Odd how a video showing an 18 year old girl having an anal gang bang with a room full of men is okay but, a 30 year old man hanging upside down by his ankles for a whipping isn't with a fully clothed woman isn't.

I wasn't aware that there had been a crackdown on BDSM videos. Could your elaborate on that topic? Has pressure come down from LE, or is it more of a matter of self-censorship? Just curious.

I think LE could care less. At least, I've never been on a set where anything illegal has been going on. The issue has come from credit cared processors. It started getting bad about 10 years ago and, has been escalating since. The only folks who really seem to care about the censorship are the banks and, that is probably coming from their financial backers. One of the reasons that C4S has been so successful is that the owner learned to play the credit card processing game early one. He has spent a lot of money setting up overseas processing accounts, so that if one goes bad, he's got another to fall back on. Some times the credit card processors who accept bdsm content disappear and, take video producers money with them. That happened to me with Ibill about 15 years. I lost at least 20k but, other people lost much more. C4S has mastered cc processing. Most folks with websites use CCbill. They are a great company. But, every year, Visa billing does an audit of the websites. Sites like Pornhub will put up outrageously obscene sex videos but not allow a decent bull whipping. Pirates are making more money off FemDom videos than the ladies who made them these days. Hopefully, that explains, without too much information. :-)

Much appreciated. I wasn't aware that the pressure point was the banks.
Just as banks are refusing accounts from SWers.